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Ascended Monkey
Crypt Keeper
Ascended Monkey

Australia
91 Posts

Posted - 08 April 2004 :  12:21:14 PM  Show Profile  Send Ascended Monkey an ICQ Message  Click to see Ascended Monkey's MSN Messenger address Send Ascended Monkey a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Just to make all forum posters aware, the moderators of these forums strongly encourage the discourse of the posted topic, and whilst the moderators are not against interactive postings, they will not tolerate posts that are essentially personal conversation and are off topic.

A continuance of this practice WILL result in person(s) being excluded from the forums.

If there is something you would like to talk about that is off topic start a new topic. If you don't now how to do this, ask!

On a more positive note, the lions share of postings that are being put on are fantastic and are an interesting read.


Even squashed frogs have feelings. (Sticky and wet.)
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CAT
Ghost
CAT

Canada
244 Posts

Posted - 08 April 2004 :  1:21:51 PM  Show Profile  Click to see CAT's MSN Messenger address Send CAT a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Haha! Exactly because you don't need em.
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joch666
Lost Soul
joch666

Australia
38 Posts

Posted - 13 April 2004 :  11:04:50 PM  Show Profile Send joch666 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I don't see a problem in choosing the gender of the new child. As the article suggests, it seems the next logical step forward in the whole process. Mind you, I don't have a problem with cloning or genetic re-sequencing or any of that DNA-diddling going on behind closed sciency doors. If we have it, we might as well use it. After all, fear of developing hydrogen fuelled machines/vehicles after the Hindenburg (sp?) disaster, imo, has robbed the world of a cheap, abundant and affordable source of fuel for decades. Let's hear it for techno-fear!
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mistresskitty
Poltergeist
mistresskitty

Canada
254 Posts

Posted - 14 April 2004 :  03:27:19 AM  Show Profile Send mistresskitty a Private Message  Reply with Quote
theres not a problem with chosing a sex
the problem lies in science is taking over something so natural from the beginning of time. the whole part of being pregnant is the suprise and enjoy being pregnant. wheres the intimacy?

We serial killers are your sons, we are your husbands, we are everywhere. And there will be more of your children dead tomorrow. -Ted Bundy
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CAT
Ghost
CAT

Canada
244 Posts

Posted - 14 April 2004 :  06:08:40 AM  Show Profile  Click to see CAT's MSN Messenger address Send CAT a Private Message  Reply with Quote
It's true. Science is disturbing the natural order of things. And most times not for the better.
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joch666
Lost Soul
joch666

Australia
38 Posts

Posted - 14 April 2004 :  8:03:48 PM  Show Profile Send joch666 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Heh. Well it's nice to know there's something positive to be gained from pregnancy.. still not enough to outweigh the negatives of bloating, back and general body ache, nausea, not to mention the agony and utter grossness of childbirth.. Then the next 30 years of poverty, grey hair and having to put up with dirty nappies, screaming toddlers and pot smoking teens...

As you can tell, I'm not exactly in the "I love and want kids" category. No. There is no good here.
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mistresskitty
Poltergeist
mistresskitty

Canada
254 Posts

Posted - 15 April 2004 :  02:04:34 AM  Show Profile Send mistresskitty a Private Message  Reply with Quote
joch for your information

1. i was a good kid
2. my parents have enough money to be happy and still make their kids happy
3. im a teen dont/have never/will never smoke pot

if you dont want children then
a) keep your legs closed
b) keep your dick in your pants

We serial killers are your sons, we are your husbands, we are everywhere. And there will be more of your children dead tomorrow. -Ted Bundy
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Witchy Woman
Corpse
Witchy Woman

Australia
22 Posts

Posted - 15 April 2004 :  02:31:42 AM  Show Profile Send Witchy Woman a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Joch, don't you just love 18 year olds with what they think is attitude?
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mistresskitty
Poltergeist
mistresskitty

Canada
254 Posts

Posted - 15 April 2004 :  1:18:32 PM  Show Profile Send mistresskitty a Private Message  Reply with Quote
witchy its not an attitude its a statement. how can you tell someone has an attitude over the computer. someone spends a little too much time online

We serial killers are your sons, we are your husbands, we are everywhere. And there will be more of your children dead tomorrow. -Ted Bundy
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CAT
Ghost
CAT

Canada
244 Posts

Posted - 15 April 2004 :  1:30:59 PM  Show Profile  Click to see CAT's MSN Messenger address Send CAT a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Watch out witchy...Kanjo might yell at you for not being relevant to the topic.
It's true though attitude is not to be judged online.
And if you don't want kids...you DO keep your legs closed and you DO keep your dick in your pants. It's not attitude it's common sense.
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shy
Crypt Keeper
shy

Australia
1991 Posts

Posted - 15 April 2004 :  6:34:06 PM  Show Profile  Visit shy's Homepage  Send shy an ICQ Message  Click to see shy's MSN Messenger address Send shy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by CAT

Watch out witchy...Kanjo might yell at you for not being relevant to the topic.
Let me start by saying that Witchy's conversation about children's attitudes is quite on-topic Cat for a discussion regarding Brave New Babies. Much more so than a couple of other people's contributions around the place of late.

And please don't question or attempt to ridicule the actions of my Moderators. It offends me that you show little respect for others on my Crypt and the rules pertaining to my site.

quote:
It's true though attitude is not to be judged online.
And if you don't want kids...you DO keep your legs closed and you DO keep your dick in your pants. It's not attitude it's common sense.

Cat, I have to agree somewhat with Witchy's comment, when you are 18, everything seems so black and white, but in adult life there are large grey areas. Long term relationships with people can sway people's better judgement on whether to have children or not have children, so can one's finacial situation, education levels and a host of other issues.

In an ideal world keeping 'your legs closed' or 'your dick in your pants' is relatively easier, but once you apply it to real life it becomes somewhat more difficult.

Maybe it would have been a better approach for you to ask Joch why she feels the way she does or to explain her post a little more rather than cast your opinions on her. Everyone leads different lives, with different circumstances and different values.


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joch666
Lost Soul
joch666

Australia
38 Posts

Posted - 15 April 2004 :  8:49:30 PM  Show Profile Send joch666 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Thanks shy, but I don't need to explain my reasons to anyone :) The fact that someone disagrees with me is fine. I sincerely hope that life is perpetually pleasant for all who believe it so.

Telling me to keep my legs closed is broaching matters which are no one's concern but mine and my partner's, and I invited no comment on the subject. I do have some very strong opinions on pro-choice matters, but they are hardly appropriate here. It's not the first time that I have been ridiculed or put down for not having a 'normal' basic desire to reproduce.

I merely sought to express an opinion I held about the subject, which I thought everyone else was doing, and was basically the point of the discussion. In future I will keep my opinions to myself. Given the subject matter of this site, I expected a modicum of maturity in the postings, especially since it deals with a lot of potentially disturbing matters. I am pleased with the majority. Sorry to cause a ruckus, shy.
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Mazeppa
Zombie
Mazeppa

USA
897 Posts

Posted - 20 April 2004 :  2:19:38 PM  Show Profile  Visit Mazeppa's Homepage  Send Mazeppa an AOL message  Send Mazeppa an ICQ Message  Click to see Mazeppa's MSN Messenger address  Send Mazeppa a Yahoo! Message Send Mazeppa a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hey Joch, I hope you don't keep your opinions to your self! Very well worded, and of interest. And I must say, this topic is certainly bringing out interesting discussion and opinions!! I hope no one has hard feelings over this, we are here to discuss things, enrich our lives, knowledge and opinions, some of which might change or at least be quite broadened. The topic of controlling birth is as sensitive as that of controlling death, I don't wonder we are all so fired up about it!
*Keep 'em flyin'!!*

Hugs to all,

mazeppa
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Witchy Woman
Corpse
Witchy Woman

Australia
22 Posts

Posted - 05 May 2004 :  12:29:16 PM  Show Profile Send Witchy Woman a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Oh looky what I started and I wasn't even trying

--::>> Witchy Woman <<::--
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Iceheart
Undertaker / Pink Star Lover
Iceheart

Australia
1149 Posts

Posted - 25 May 2004 :  3:08:56 PM  Show Profile  Visit Iceheart's Homepage  Click to see Iceheart's MSN Messenger address Send Iceheart a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I guess being able to choose whetehr you have boy or a girl human infant could have its advantages.
My mother had 4 of us girls and I guess she was lucky after the 3rd and 4th coz she already had all the stuff for girl babies.
Plus if someone in your family has had a boy baby and you would like a boy baby, it'd certainly make it cheaper on you if they were willing to pass down clothes, toys etc. Baby shopping is fucking expensive as, before you even CONSIDER getting to clothes and toys!

But it does raise the question - witht his technology does that mean we are really and truly on the way to becoming Aldus Huxley's Brave New World? where we are all gentically engineered and programmed before we are born....I dunno if I like that idea.

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I hate your stinking guts.
You make me vomit.
You're scuuuumm between my toes.
Love Alfalfa.
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