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shy
Crypt Keeper
 
Australia
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 Posted - 24 May 2004 : 12:21:28 AM
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He is convicted of killing and eating his girlfriend, but he is today living as a free man in a Swedish town in spite of the fact that there are chances that he will kill – and eat – again.
The then 30-year-old man killed his 28-year-old girlfriend in November 1979 by drowning her in the bathtub. According to the Swedish paper, he divided her into pieces and ate large parts of her while drinking wine.
The police in Malmö found several kilos of human flesh in the man’s refrigerator, while the rest of the woman, the man had eaten, flushed down the toilet or thrown into the sea.
The man had allegedly worked several days with dividing her body. He allegedly scalped his victim «in order to see what it looked like.»
Sten Levander, the head prosecutor at the psychiatric clinic in Malmö, claims that the convicted man has not changed in spite of spending 23 years in preventative custody, but he has adopted a tidy and since appearance.
In spite of Levander’s evaluations, the 54-year-old is allowed to live as a free man in the Swedish society and report to the clinic once a week. He is currently studying languages on a higher academic level, and he is allegedly very talented. However, he does not have the ability to comprehend how other people think, and he has no empathy.
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Iceheart
Undertaker / Pink Star Lover
 
Australia
1146 Posts |
Posted - 25 May 2004 : 3:31:14 PM
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Ok, so how is this dude not a threat to society?
Or was this just a one-off craving?
Hmmm, today I could really go some human muscle from the ARSE!
YUM YUM
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Dear Darla.
I hate your stinking guts.
You make me vomit.
You're scuuuumm between my toes.
Love Alfalfa.
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bloodsfire
Ghost
 
USA
141 Posts |
Posted - 12 June 2004 : 06:52:05 AM
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In Norway, the maximum prison sentence Period!, is 21 years.
A doctor convicted of 22 murders was sentenced to exactly 21 years. Seems they were one victim short in his scentence count.
European countries, with the exception of France, and sometimes England, have extremely lienient penalties for crimes of all sorts.
This goes for many South American countries as well. "The Monster of the Andes", a convicted serial murder of many, confessor to over 300 murdrs, was released for paroll in 1998.
Comforting, isn't it?
"Say hello, to everything you've left behind....it's even more a part of your life now that you can't touch it." |
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Dee250
Corpse
United Kingdom
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Posted - 15 June 2004 : 5:22:27 PM
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Here in the UK, penalties tend to be political. When someone is convicted of a crime and given a life sentance (always for murder), they get sent down and then reviewed. The Home Office then sets their tariff within 3 months. The average tariff (time served) for murder in the UK is 12 years. After that, the person is freed on license, which means that at any time in the future, should they commit even the smallest offence, or are considered a risk to society, they can be pulled back in. That licence is for life.
If a crime is very high profile and has the public whipped up, then the tariff will usually be natural life - You never get out.
I doubt that this guy in Sweden would have been released in the UK. It seems nuts to let him go if his clinic don't see his personality as changed. That isn't protecting the public or the guy from himself. |
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bloodsfire
Ghost
USA
141 Posts |
Posted - 14 July 2004 : 08:58:53 AM
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In the U.S. our legal system allows the clinically and legally insane to slip through the cracks, while giving out life sentences to drug offenders. I myself was recently checked in to the state mental facility after attempting to "harm" myself. Two days later, after the appropriate psycho babble, I was released.
In much the same way, Ted Bundy talked the talk and was released by authorities several times, before his game was uncovered.
America professes a great relish for administering the death penalty, but in truth, any fairly well educated individual may be able to use to his/her advantage the very laws that seemingly condemn them. Besides the fact that paroll is issued after minimum time is served, even on a life sentence, and the violent walk the street again.
Perhaps our penal system is actually more lax than those of other nations which only seemless severe.
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Tino1977
Lost Soul
 
Netherlands
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Posted - 16 July 2004 : 02:26:02 AM
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Originally posted by bloodsfire
European countries, with the exception of France, and sometimes England, have extremely lienient penalties for crimes of all sorts
Not entirely true. I know of one case in the netherlands where a pedofile(spelling??) has been locked up for about twenty years now. And it does not look like he's going to get out anytime soon.
And on the other hand, certain states of the U.S are known to send innocent people to the chair.
Comforting isn't it.
Oh could you tell me something??
What is the crime penalty in the U.S. when you're caught with,lets say,about 5 grams of Ganja???
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shy
Crypt Keeper
Australia
1867 Posts |
Posted - 17 July 2004 : 10:33:00 PM
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Originally posted by bloodsfire
Comforting, isn't it?
Maybe this should inspire our police force to try and catch criminals sooner rather than later and get the maximum time for each offence, rather than a year per victim. I know that the life of someone dear to me being taken from me this way is worth more than a year of the killer's life...
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shy
Crypt Keeper
Australia
1867 Posts |
Posted - 17 July 2004 : 10:35:58 PM
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Originally posted by bloodsfire
In the U.S. our legal system allows the clinically and legally insane to slip through the cracks, while giving out life sentences to drug offenders.
Sounds to me like you are misdirecting your anger here Bloodsfire... angry that clinically and legally insane people are falling through the cracks, angry that drug offenders aren't... why don't you direct your anger at the law, the legal system, judicial system and the police? -- Have you tried changing the laws?
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bloodsfire
Ghost
USA
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Posted - 21 July 2004 : 07:49:10 AM
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No anger at all shy...
Just pointing out that all over the globe, no matter what the laws in any nation, some strange system of checks and balances makes no judicial system any worse than another. Here in the US, God money controls all... That is a fact, not an opinion. One nation under God is indeed our motto, but it all depends on who ya bow to! If corruption and greed were grounds for salvation, our politicians would rank right up there with Abraham and Moses. There is no real anger, or even judgement in my statements. Just trying to call it like i see it. Besides that, I am a firm believer in Karma, and the law of threes. No matter what the judge says from the bench, our sentences are truly dictated by our actions.
"If every man truly got what he deserves, none would 'scape whipping"
W. Shakespeare
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bloodsfire
Ghost
USA
141 Posts |
Posted - 21 July 2004 : 07:59:55 AM
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On another note...
My work in the field of psychology centers around the profiling and research of serial criminals of all sorts. An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure... My job does not center so much on the hunt and capture of serial criminals, rather on the understanding and recognition of what makes them what they are. If the early onset symptoms can be identified and treated, maybe I can help the children who would otherwise have the potential to become monsters. No way to rehabilitate a serial criminal once he/she has crossed the line into violent behavior, better in my thinking to stop them from ever having to suffer the dissasociation and alienation which turns fantasy into bloodlust. Just like the murderous character in the movie "The Cell", inside every evil man is a child in pain. My life's work is to find a way to help the innocents who would be the dispatchers of life, and in the process, save those who would otherwise become victims....
HIndsight is 20/20..
The depressing fact remains that someone must die so that others may live. In order to learn, I must survey the bloody remains left behind by the predator on the prowl. It is ugly, but perhaps something better will grow one day from the seeds of suffering. In the meantime..First, do no harm.
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Tanathos
DOA
Mexico
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Posted - 26 July 2004 : 2:55:53 PM
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| It is not surprising that every country have their cracks in the legal system built-in. In Mexico the maximum penalty is 40 years, and the corrupt judicial system allows for many criminals to walk...of course you must have money to do this, like in any other country...conviction statistics in Mexico are dismal: a mere 13% of cases reported to the authorities get a conviction. The Juarez killings of more than 100 young women (the estimates range from 91 to 300)demonstrate that, at least in that area, one or several serial killers have found a haven in which to prowl with no danger of being captured, and if captured, with a very slim chance of ever getting convicted. Disturbing, to say the least... |
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Iceheart
Undertaker / Pink Star Lover
Australia
1146 Posts |
Posted - 24 September 2004 : 09:47:01 AM
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Mmmm disturbing alright.
Aint going to Mexico for chilli beans and tequila in a hurry.
Why is it that so many "legal systems" cant see the mathematics in "two wrongs dont make a right"?
Makes perfect sense to me.
They hung good ol' Jesus for less..............
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Heaven bent to take my hand, and lead me thru the fire.
Be the long awaited answer, to a long and painful fight.
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bloodsfire
Ghost
USA
141 Posts |
Posted - 29 September 2004 : 3:36:32 PM
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The authorities are constantly searching for ways to make they're budgets stretch like silly-putty. Although not exactly original, the practice of putting our prisoners to work is once again becoming the rule rather than the exception. Instead of attempting to supervise a correctional facility, full beyond capacity with convicted felons who spend thier days at card tables, or workout benches, the gov't has begun to reinstate the old system of contracted convict labor. Prisoners now have the opportunity to get thier exercise the old fashioned way: Manual labor from sun-up to sun-down. State prisoners are finding themselves performing tasks ranging from road construction work, to swinging a bush axe and clearing away the unwanted foliage plauging goverment property. Often, an inmate will see much more of the state in which he serves his sentence than he ever wanted to, as prisoners are hustled from one work camp to another. I am not opposed to putting able-bodied men to work, but I cannot help but catch a whiff of chain-gang, slave-labor. Who gets the tax-write offs at the end of the year, and is ditch-digging for uncle sam a skill one would list on a resume? And, out of curiosity, how do the authorities select who works when and where? Who is held responsible when a convicted cannibal suffers hunger pangs while on work detail, and takes a bite out of his fellow worker? Yummy!
Built in Switches
Like wind-up Dolls
Bound up in Stitches
Burning like Witches
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B5160-8
Lost Soul
USA
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Posted - 11 November 2004 : 8:22:16 PM
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I was sure this thread was going to be about Issei Sagawa. Sagawa was a 4'9" girly voiced Japanese man who was obsessed with Nordic women. Tall, blonde, and beautiful they were everything he wasn't. He wanted to consume, own, and destroy them. While studying at the Censier Institute in Paris in 1981, 32-year-old Sagawa meet Renee Hartevelt a 25-year-old, tall, blonde, and northern european woman. He hired her to teach him German. On June 11, 1981, he invited her to read a German poem that he would then record. While she read he shot her in the back of the neck with a .22-cal rifle. He raped her body, took pictures, ate peices of her while listening to the recording of her reading the poem, used her underwear as a napkin to wipe his mouth, and stored piece of her in the freezer for later. When flies started to gather he cut her up into smaller peices. Which excited him so he masturbated with her hand. He put the parts in a pair of suitcases, and left them in a park when he got spooked. The police traced the purchase of the suitcases back to him. A judge found Sagawa not competent to stand trial. Sagawa received a sentence of incarceration for an indefinite period in the Paul Guiraud asylum. His father Akira Sagawa, president of Kurita Water Industries in Tokyo, made a deal in 1984 to have Sagawa transferred to the Matsuzawa psychiatric hospital in Japan. Fifteen months later on August 1985 Sagawa's father got him released. So he only served five years for killing, and eating a woman. Since then Issei has been in Japanese pornos, on talk shows, On the cover of a Japanese gourmet food magazine, and he wrote four novels.
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bloodsfire
Ghost
USA
141 Posts |
Posted - 12 November 2004 : 08:04:57 AM
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So, some of us actually get more than 15 minutes of fame.....
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Convicted cannibal lives as a free man
