Have Vampyres Evolved?
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Topic author: Iceheart
Subject: Have Vampyres Evolved? If Vampyrism began somewhere in Eastern Europe in the1400's, and given the extremity of their physiology, it would be logical to assume that if they have survived this long that they may have evolved in order to survive.
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Posted on: 07 May 2004 3:55:02 PM
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Long-lived creatures are doomed to evolve more slowly, whatever the
pressures on them; a longer life means fewer generations, slower
reproduction and so fewer opportunities for evolutionary change.
Parasitic organisms might appear to have the freedom to reproduce at will;
but most are subject to limitations, in some cases a complex life cycle,
involving more than one host species, in others a simple population
pressure.
Vampires who allow their community to grow too large risk discovery and
destruction; individuals and small groups might get by for ages - especially
in isolated communities. The act of vampirification creates a potential
competitor, as well as a blood relative - a community that can support one
vampire's appetites might not be able to support two; from such instability
mobs, riots and flaming torches are born!
Heaven bent to take my hand, and lead me through the fire.
Be the long awaited answer, to a long and painful fight.
Reply author: Nothing
Replied on: 08 May 2004 11:18:35 AM
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of course they have evolved
Reply author: Jukama
Replied on: 08 May 2004 8:21:36 PM
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The whole idea is that you learn to feed in small doses. No dead body drained of blood in a dark alley these days - just the quick nip and suck on a crowded train or bus. How many times have you noticed a small cut on your finger and thought "where the hell did I do that?"
~Nobody can be exactly like me. Sometimes even I have trouble doing it~
Reply author: Mazeppa
Replied on: 09 May 2004 05:29:30 AM
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Ya, Jukama.....often I have had strange wounds and wonder, but then again on a subway or around people I don't generall
y let anyone NEAR me. Also, I have a Vampyre killing kit.....heehee. Movies and Bram Stoker aside, do any of you really believe they exsist, in the classic sense?
mazeppa
Reply author: Jukama
Replied on: 09 May 2004 1:26:53 PM
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If they didn't wouldn't the world be just that little bit colder and grey. Let's face it - a chance to live forever, be above the law, to do what you wanted, to walk with the dark instead of in it. Who would NOT want to be a vampire?
So let's not talk of whether they exist or not - let's just move our chairs a little closer to the fire, fill up the glasses, make sure the garlic is hanging over the windows, settle in and tell tales of the undead.
"You can go a long way with a smile. You can go a lot farther with a smile and a gun."
~Al Capone~
Reply author: Mazeppa
Replied on: 10 May 2004 12:39:24 AM
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Judas was the first Vampyre....cursed by God after betraying Christ,he was cursed to live forever as walking dead. He fears and is repeled by silver, as he was paid in silver for his betrayal. The cross repels him, as Jesus was crucified upon one. The cross was made of Dogwood, so a dogwood stake can kill him.....he can also be trapped by thorns, as Christ's head was wreathed in them. Perhaps....he even bit Jesus, how else could he have ressurected??
Blood drunk is his life force and means of sustinence, an attempt to regain life to himself.......
*MuuuWhaaaaaaaahhhh! Jukama, the garlic blew off the window, I'll get you another drink if you put it back.......*
mazeppa
Reply author: Jukama
Replied on: 10 May 2004 12:54:28 PM
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Hey for another drink I'll do anything. Except I don't drink ....wine.
Reply author: Mazeppa
Replied on: 10 May 2004 2:28:07 PM
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Iceheart and I will get you a Bloody......Mary!
mazeppa
Reply author: Jukama
Replied on: 10 May 2004 3:16:36 PM
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How about a bloody michael? 
**Our ways are not your ways, and there shall be to you many strange things**
Reply author: Iceheart
Replied on: 10 May 2004 4:08:14 PM
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I have just finished reading the most incredible novel called "The World on Blood". Mazeppa and Jukama, for a most intriguing and BELIEVABLE insight into vampires I recommend you get a copy of this book post haste and devour it. It is absolutely spell binding.
Blood is described as being the ultimate "high"........*sigh*, and the sex, well..........
I wonder if thats possible - getting high as a kite by drinking blood? High as in high when you take ekkys and get really really stoned and everything becomes so pure and honest; so simply and wonderful. And dam funny.
Heaven bent to take my hand, and lead me through the fire.
Be the long awaited answer, to a long and painful fight.
Reply author: Jukama
Replied on: 10 May 2004 4:52:31 PM
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Always looking for a good read ... who's the author?
**Our ways are not your ways, and there shall be to you many strange things**
Reply author: Iceheart
Replied on: 11 May 2004 1:25:00 PM
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haha, yeah usually helps to know the author of a novel you're after! Jonathon Nasaw. He has few other goodies out as well.
the book section of Amazon.com has his novel starting at $3.00US
Heaven bent to take my hand, and lead me through the fire.
Be the long awaited answer, to a long and painful fight.
Reply author: Nothing
Replied on: 17 May 2004 08:16:16 AM
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has anyone here read Lost Souls By. poppy z brite If i had a bible that would be it. also by poppy Wormwood,Drawing Blood,and Liquor. lovely auther
Reply author: Mazeppa
Replied on: 17 May 2004 1:55:34 PM
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Do you brew your own Absinthe', Nothing? I have naught read that title, but now I am aware or it, might indulge.
mazeppa
Reply author: Jade_Delicious
Replied on: 20 May 2004 4:41:27 PM
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I read that book The World on Blood.
I found it to be very exciting and extremely tempting....do you think its possible that blood is the unknown sexual aphrodisiac and the ultimate high?
I am the fhiyar and the iyce of your world
Reply author: Jukama
Replied on: 21 May 2004 11:42:04 AM
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I don't mind the odd bite now and then during sex but I think if someone bit hard enough to draw blood I'd probably lash out with both fists.
**Our ways are not your ways, and there shall be to you many strange things**
Reply author: angel
Replied on: 30 May 2004 6:12:58 PM
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I think that there is a lot more Psychic Vampirism going on now than actuel blood letting. There are those who seem to suck the life out of you just being near them. People who through high drama or inciting you to anger etc can feed off the unsuspecting leaving you drained and exausted with out knowing why.
seduce my mind and you can have my body, find my soul and I am yours forever
Reply author: Iceheart
Replied on: 07 June 2004 1:54:08 PM
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I have, from time to time, encountered people like that, and I think you're dead on angel.
Tho I dont know if these people are calling themselves Vampyres, but I know of a person who literally sucks my will to live.
Whenever Im around him, we always end up in firey conversations and he just seems to get more and more into it whilst I get more and more frustrated and drained to the point where I give up trying to argue with him.
It always stops then, the feeling that Im being drained of my energy. He isn't really the Vampyre type either.
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Heaven bent to take my hand, and lead me thru the fire.
Be the long awaited answer, to a long and painful fight.
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Reply author: bloodsfire
Replied on: 29 September 2004 5:43:06 PM
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"Judas was the first Vampyre....cursed by God after betraying Christ,he was cursed to live forever as walking dead."
This is the first time that I have heard that particular version of Vampyre Genesis. Where did you come across this account of vampiric origin Mazeppa? I have compiled and compared a fairly good sized pile of Vampyre lore and research, and one of the more plausible and accepted versions of the story of the Vampyres begins with Cain in the old testament. After slaying his brother Abel, Cain was cast out into the land of nod, and cursed with several afflictions consistent with vampiric nature as we know it.....
Some mornings, it's just not worth chewing through the leather straps.
Reply author: Iceheart
Replied on: 30 September 2004 1:30:43 PM
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An interesting fetish raised by jade_delicious - has anyone else encountered blood drinking during sex?
Biting brings that line between pleasure and pain into sight, but what could swallowing the pain do?
The book is written that well I don't doubt that blood being an aprodisiac is possible. Tho nothing beats melting chocolate in strategically placed places 
Mazepaa - advance on your religious vampiric post 
I cannot stand to be in the same room with a bible, least of all would I ever pick one up to study the roots of our fairy tales. But to say Judas was the first Vampyre has my attention. Where would read abou this *fictitional character?
*I say fictitional because I do not believe for one second any of the shit written in the so called Bible to end all Bibles - The Christian Bible. How Christ could be so greedy as to think he create and maintain pefection is beyond me, but when push came to shove he bowed out nicely didnt he 
The Raelians.......now thers an interesting bunch of people with a religion WORTH investigating
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Heaven bent to take my hand, and lead me thru the fire.
Be the long awaited answer, to a long and painful fight.
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Reply author: B5160-8
Replied on: 08 October 2004 9:41:45 PM
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Dracula 2000, Wes Cravens take on the legend of Dracula. Dracula is Judas
"Hate the living, love the dead"
Reply author: Nothing
Replied on: 23 May 2006 10:50:57 AM
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Though still a virgin i have bitten and drank the blood of a dear friend though it was quite a while ago and she did not think i would but if you try it beware of aids please
Also i believe that vampires have evolved into something much like humans mabe just a little stronger and a little more blood thirstybut very much humanlike in appearance i dont know ?!?
thanx Love nothing
Reply author: Haematomania
Replied on: 13 November 2006 12:37:45 PM
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I do not believe in Vampires so I couldnt honestly say but evolution would suggest if they do exist then yes, they have evolved into something more safisticated for this time era.
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