Sherlock expert in death mystery
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Topic author: Jukama
Subject: Sherlock expert in death mystery
Posted on: 01 May 2004 12:52:48 PM
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A leading Sherlock Holmes expert died after being garrotted with a shoelace, an inquest has heard.
Richard Lancelyn Green, 50, from Kensington, died from asphyxiation, Westminster Coroner's Court was told.
Coroner Dr Paul Knapman recorded an open verdict and said the ex-chairman of the Sherlock Holmes Society of London suffered a "very unusual death".
Mr Lancelyn Green was paranoid people were trying to smear his name and plot against him, the inquest was told.
'Obsessed with legacy'
Dr Knapman said there was not enough evidence to rule in or out suicide, murder or a sexual act gone wrong.
Mr Lancelyn Green was found in his bed, surrounded by cuddly toys and a bottle, after a wooden spoon was used to tighten the shoelace around his neck.
Lawrence Keen told of his friend's bugging fears
Mr Lancelyn Green, who co-edited a book about the Sherlock Holmes creator Sir Arthur Conan Doyle, had strong concerns about the planned auction of the author's papers, the inquest heard.
The court was told he thought "someone in America" was preparing to dirty his name and he was becoming increasingly obsessed with the Conan Doyle legacy and the impending sale.
The death has provoked more rumours about the so-called "curse of Conan Doyle" - several people connected with the Sherlock Holmes author have died unexpectedly early or have faced legal battles over the family archives.
Verdict
The coroner said: "There are many comments in this case in favour of suicide. He was acting strangely and he seemed to be scared and there is no evidence of violence.
"I am perfectly content to say that suicide is the most likely possibility but we have no note and it's a very unusual way of killing yourself to put a lace, which must hurt, around the neck and continue to twist it.
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Ok what is the connection between the toys, the bottle and the shoelace tightened with a wooden spoon.
Watson - the game is afoot!!
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Reply author: Mazeppa
Replied on: 01 May 2004 2:01:57 PM
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VERY interesting, Jukama! I read Doyle, and have met a lot of persons interested in his ongoing legacy. A bar-owner in NYC had me sculpt a bust of Sherlock, an 82nd airborne colonel had his place all done up like Holmes era, I made things to go in there, I hear of Sherlock a fair amount from persons I correspond with....everyone has heard of him though they might not know the works of H.P. Lovecraft...I am staying tuned to THIS topic!!
Thanks,
mazeppa
Reply author: Jukama
Replied on: 01 May 2004 2:39:58 PM
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I must admit both Mr Holmes and Cthulhu/Nyarlathotep featured hugely in my early reading.
~Nobody can be exactly like me. Sometimes even I have trouble doing it~
Reply author: Mazeppa
Replied on: 07 May 2004 10:08:26 AM
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The 7% solution..........
mazeppa
Reply author: Jukama
Replied on: 07 May 2004 6:08:34 PM
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Hang it all Watson , it's Saturday ... make that 7 1/2%
~Nobody can be exactly like me. Sometimes even I have trouble doing it~
Reply author: Mazeppa
Replied on: 08 May 2004 12:03:04 AM
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I vote for 8%, Sherlock ol' chap! You could get to the solution of the crime ever so much faster!
*Sorry to "needle" you........*
mazeppa
Reply author: Jukama
Replied on: 08 May 2004 7:19:03 PM
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That would indeed "speed" our investigations.
~Nobody can be exactly like me. Sometimes even I have trouble doing it~
Reply author: Jukama
Replied on: 08 May 2004 7:55:35 PM
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Open verdict in death of Holmes expert
Yesterday coroner Paul Knapman called it a "very unusual death" and recorded an open verdict. He said there was insufficient evidence to rule whether it was suicide, murder or a deviant sexual act taken too far that had caused the death of the former chairman of the Sherlock Holmes Society of London.
The court heard talk of the "curse of Conan Doyle", where people connected with the creator of Sherlock Holmes seem unusually predisposed to unexpected death, breakdown or unpleasant conflict.
Mr Green was found dead on March 27 in bed at his multimillion pound home in Kensington. A pathologist said the form of his death was so unusual he had come across only one other such case in 30 years.
Mr Green's sister, Priscilla West, said she had been alarmed by a phone conversation in which he seemed preoccupied with the forthcoming sale of a collection of Conan Doyle's papers, valued at £2m, at Christie's, which he thought should go to the British Library. He asked her to keep three names and phone numbers safe.
Nicholas Rathbone Utechin, a friend of the deceased and relative of the Sherlock Holmes actor Basil Rathbone, told the inquest that Mr Green had called him insisting a radio broadcast produced by Mr Utechin four years previously backed his theory that the family wanted the papers to go to the British Library.
He believed the bulk of the papers belonged to the late Dame Jean Conan Doyle, the author's daughter, and claimed she had wanted them to be donated to the library.
But there was a rumour that the main reason Mr Green wanted the papers at the library was so that he could access them and fulfil his ambition to write the definitive biography of Conan Doyle.
Mr Utechin said he had listened to the tapes but found no evidence of what Mr Green was suggesting and became concerned for his state of mind.
The court also heard from Lawrence Keen, the last person to see him alive. He said the pair had been out for a meal during which Mr Green had drunk the lion's share of a litre of wine before they had gone to his home for coffee.
Mr Green insisted they talk in the garden "because the whole house was bugged". Mr Keen later left the house.
In his summing up the coroner said: "There are many points in this case in favour of a verdict of suicide. He was acting strangely. There was no evidence of foul play.
"I'm perfectly content to say suicide is the most likely position. But we have no note and it's a very unusual way of killing oneself."
~Nobody can be exactly like me. Sometimes even I have trouble doing it~
Reply author: Mazeppa
Replied on: 15 May 2004 11:18:19 AM
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I think we need to call Sherlock in on this case....as a strong solution seems naught to be forthcoming.....
signed,
Sir Inge
mazeppa
Reply author: Mazeppa
Replied on: 18 May 2004 1:56:26 PM
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I just have to type that garroting oneself with a shoelace tightened by a wooden spoon is a most unusual method of suicide, and that unless the spoon were locked into position I would think that the man would have lost consciousness then the garrote released. A strange case, if someone wished to defame him, this method would work reasonably well. It sounds like whoever did it, whether suicide, murder or some strange sexual act, left little evidence!
mazeppa
Reply author: Iceheart
Replied on: 25 May 2004 4:01:53 PM
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Isnt it impossible to choke yourself?
Mmmm
I watched some Sherlock Holmes movie ages ago and never realised he was a huge OP user.
All the best are tainted with drugs........still, I guess thats how he solved his crimes. Perhaps being high as fucking kite really does help you see into the eyes of a killer...
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Reply author: Mazeppa
Replied on: 25 May 2004 5:25:01 PM
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Sherlock made the observation that suicides often do so in very strange manner. Often a case is difficult to distinguidh from murder, think: if an individual is severely unbalanced, might not self-murder take unusual format? Strangling oneself with a shoe lace might seem just the thing to some.......hope none of us ever get so involved!
mazeppa
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